Go easy on her .It takes time .Ask her to help undrstand why your thinking is wrong and in the process you can get her to see your point.We were all like this at one point .
raymond frantz
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My mother continues with these creepy letters
by sosoconfused inas i continue to post these letters just to let people see what they can expect through a fade, i hope they are not annoying anyone.. if so please let me know and i will no longer post them.
however i think these letters help you to see how cultish and crazy this religion causes people to become:.
evening <name removed>,.
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The antidote to the myth that JWs are declining
by slimboyfat inone of the most persistent myths on this website is that jws are already in decline, the rot has set in, and the descent of the watchtower is inevitable from here on in.
unfortunately the facts do not bear this out.
jws are still increasing even in most developing countries, and they are still growing worldwide at a faster rate than the general population.
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raymond frantz
There's definetely more Witnesses today than 10 years ago and that will be the trend for some years to come BUT there are undeniable signs that things are changing fast :
- Their economic model is unsustainable .Donations from Western Countries has dried up not only due to the recent Recession but the disatisfaction amongst many Witnesses .
- The fire in the belly has gone .With 1914 almost 100 years away ,there is no date to hung onto anymore .Yes they can "danced around it" as much as they like but no one is stupid ,people are just not motivated as much as they used to
- Elders outnumber ministerials servants in many congragations now ,a sign that most of the young ones have access to internet and more information and although they stay in the truth for mum and dad they are not willing to donate their life away for a lost cause.
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My Mom has decided to turn me in... I am not afraid (Letter Inside)
by sosoconfused inthe only reason i am posting this is because i know many of you are going or will be going through something similar and wonder if it is worth it.
i personally feel that it is worth it regardless of what i lose.
my wife is backing me and i have my children.
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raymond frantz
Welcome to the Matrix! It is all around you it exists in the media,politics and "cults" dressed as religions. The mind control that Watchtower has done to your mum's mind is something to marvel. It will take alot of time and love to undo the damage .Make sure you keep your family together as things will get "hairy" ,especially if the elders find out .Prepare your family for the "love" phone calls from other members of the congragation which have only one purpose to ultimetely turn your family against you ,whether they realise it or not .The Watchtower has only one thing in mind for "apostates" ,they want you out .The Shepherding the flock book ,the judicial comittees are designed to damage your credibility and destroy your family .The men behind the Watchtower are truly evil and Jesus has designed a special place for them called HELL ,that's all they deserve.Christian love ,pm me if you need any help or advice,Ray
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Revelation chapter 19
by Crazyguy inchapter 19 of revelation states more then once that the great crowd, great multitude are in heaven.
so what lame excuse does the wt use to explain away this obvious contradiction of what they teach?.
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It's being covered extensivly many times before ,just type in the SEARCH box :Great crowd
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Numbers don't lie :The End of JESUS...
by raymond frantz in(1john2:22,23)who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that jesus is the christ?
this is the antichrist, the one that denies the father and the son.
23 everyone that denies the son does not have the father either.
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APOLOGY : Hi guys ,I would like to apologise for the figures .When I did the research yesterday I used these numbers from the 2011 cd .When I checked again today on the 2012 cd I got different figures.Again may apologies I will get to the bottom of it and be more careful next time when I post things here .It was not done with the intention to misinform .Many thanks for pointing out the mistake
On a second note ,we all now how much the WT loves Jesus
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Numbers don't lie :The End of JESUS...
by raymond frantz in(1john2:22,23)who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that jesus is the christ?
this is the antichrist, the one that denies the father and the son.
23 everyone that denies the son does not have the father either.
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(1John2:22,23)Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one that denies the Father and the Son. 23 Everyone that denies the Son does not have the Father either. He that confesses the Son has the Father also.
(2 John 9-11) "Everyone that pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God. He that does remain in this teaching is the one that has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to YOU and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into YOUR homes or say a greeting to him. 11 For he that says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
You can't have the Father without the Son .In fact it is so serious to promote a religion based solely upon the Father completely ignoring the SOn that Apostle John warned never to receive such a man nor say a greeting to him .The REAL APOSTATES of the Watchtower , the "governing body " promotes such a religion .Numbers don't lie.A search on the Watchtowers from 1950-2011 shows that the Watchtower is working hard to remove Jesus' name from the hearts and minds of average Jehovah's Witnesses .They are truly turning Jehovah's Witnesses in to a cult
The following two two diagrams are based on Average Yearly Apperance of the Name Jesus & Jehovah from 1950-2011 in the Watchtower
Notice the name Jehovah fluctuates 2250-3050 for the past 62 years BUT the name Jesus is disappearing STEADILY from over 1500 a year in the early 50's to a SHOCKING 444 mentions in 2011 !!! They have well and truly replaced Jesus substituting him in the position of power with themselves .ANTI-CHRIST!!!
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My Mission
by raymond frantz inmy mission.
i've being here for over a year guys and it has definetely been a journey .i treat now jwn as the jw wikipedia ,any subject you want to research is under the search section with comments and analysis from members of the like that no watchtower magazine ever produced .although many of us are fully awake i believe that 99% of the average jw is completely unaware of the main issues and unable to make any informed decision about his/her faith .every day around the world millions of jw's make life altering decisions about education ,schooling, finding a mate ,employment and other personal decisions based on limited information about their faith .information control imposed upon them from the megalomaniacs of brooklyn new york .i see young men and women dropping education for the shake of preaching a false gospel and it breaks my heart .. many decided to create groups like the awaa to take on the watchtower but it feels we've been here before .structure ,organization , following orders.... i believe we can be a one man army .i believe we can individually help more jws faster more effectively if we concetrate in our own geographical area rather than trying to take on a billion dollar corporation with conventional methods that have been created for the purpose of sheilding large organizations .. i don't want the fall of the watchtower society ,it isn't within my grasp for many reasons .organised religion will be brought to an end by god ,it is a prophesy.also as gamaliel wisely said in response to the religious leaders of sahendrin :" do not meddle with these men, but let them alone; (because, if this scheme or this work is from men, it will be overthrown; 39 but if it is from god, you will not be able to overthrow them;) otherwise, you may perhaps be found fighters actually against god.
"(acts 5:38,39).
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raymond frantz
My Mission
I've being here for over a year guys and it has definetely been a journey .I treat now JWN as the JW wikipedia ,any subject you want to research is under the SEARCH section with comments and analysis from members of the like that no Watchtower magazine ever produced .Although many of us are fully awake I believe that 99% of the average JW is completely unaware of the main issues and unable to make any informed decision about his/her faith .Every day around the world millions of JW's make life altering decisions about education ,schooling, finding a mate ,employment and other personal decisions based on limited information about their faith .Information control imposed upon them from the megalomaniacs of Brooklyn New York .I see young men and women dropping education for the shake of preaching a false Gospel and it breaks my heart .
Many decided to create groups like the AWAA to take on the Watchtower but it feels we've been here before .Structure ,organization , following orders...
I believe we can be a one man army .I believe we can individually help more JWs faster more effectively if we concetrate in our own geographical area rather than trying to take on a billion dollar corporation with conventional methods that have been created for the purpose of sheilding large organizations .
I don't want the fall of the Watchtower Society ,it isn't within my grasp for many reasons .Organised religion will be brought to an end by God ,it is a prophesy.Also as Gamaliel wisely said in response to the religious leaders of Sahendrin :" Do not meddle with these men, but let them alone; (because, if this scheme or this work is from men, it will be overthrown; 39 but if it is from God, YOU will not be able to overthrow them;) otherwise, YOU may perhaps be found fighters actually against God."(Acts 5:38,39)
That doesn't mean though that you resign from your obligation to expose the lies and tell the truth .That doesn't free you from the rtesponsibility to warn others and offer them the information denied to them by Brooklyn .
This is what I have to offer .I design websites based on Wordpress .Anyone who wants to run a website and wants to help Witnesses in his area I will help them get their website and let them run it at minimal cost.The website will be in the style of www.new-jw.org .You can have a website such as this free ,all you help me pay is hosting and google :
- Domain name
- Hosting
- Google SEO (I pay for your website to appear on your area,that includes 3 localities ,your website will appear on Google's website when someone types i.e.Jehovah's Witnesses Oclahoma).That can be done for 3 different areas
- Mobile integration ,your website will be responsive ,easily accesible from mobile devices
- Contact pop form on the front page
- Tel number icon when someone access the website via mobile
- Support and Update articles
As I said I do that in my spare time as I think that this will make a difference in the JWs of your area and you can be a source of information for your brothers and sisters .You don't need a large organisation to run this ,you can do it all by yourself
I will be posting this offer from time to time ,this way more can see it and take it on
If you have any questions please let me know ,or PM and I will reply within 24 hours
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How to treat Bible prophesies
by raymond frantz inhi guys i'm writing a new article for my website about prophesies ,please let me know what you think and give me some feedback .the page is dedicated to prophesy interpretation from ex-jehovah's witnesses that don't agree with the interpretation of the watchtower http://new-jw.org/prophesies/.
"there is a fine line between interpreting prophesy and imposing this interpretation upon others as a doctrine.
a true christian who is faithful and discreet should never attempt to cross this line .the word of god provides with guidelines on how to treat prophesy .paul in 1 thessalonians 5:20 warns us "do not treat prophesyings with contempt.".
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thanks able bodied man ,good sugestions
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How to treat Bible prophesies
by raymond frantz inhi guys i'm writing a new article for my website about prophesies ,please let me know what you think and give me some feedback .the page is dedicated to prophesy interpretation from ex-jehovah's witnesses that don't agree with the interpretation of the watchtower http://new-jw.org/prophesies/.
"there is a fine line between interpreting prophesy and imposing this interpretation upon others as a doctrine.
a true christian who is faithful and discreet should never attempt to cross this line .the word of god provides with guidelines on how to treat prophesy .paul in 1 thessalonians 5:20 warns us "do not treat prophesyings with contempt.".
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raymond frantz
My aim is not to explain the 70 weeks but to introduce a list of prophesies that have been given a different interpretation from that of The Watchtower's .The list will be in a similar format to the one presented here http://new-jw.org/index/
These prophesy interpratations will be taken from posts in this website that have been considered in the past and from other "apostate" websites
Also what do you think is a top 10 list of prophesies need reconsidering and why ?
Many thanks
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How to treat Bible prophesies
by raymond frantz inhi guys i'm writing a new article for my website about prophesies ,please let me know what you think and give me some feedback .the page is dedicated to prophesy interpretation from ex-jehovah's witnesses that don't agree with the interpretation of the watchtower http://new-jw.org/prophesies/.
"there is a fine line between interpreting prophesy and imposing this interpretation upon others as a doctrine.
a true christian who is faithful and discreet should never attempt to cross this line .the word of god provides with guidelines on how to treat prophesy .paul in 1 thessalonians 5:20 warns us "do not treat prophesyings with contempt.".
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Hi guys I'm writing a new article for my website about prophesies ,please let me know what you think and give me some feedback .The page is dedicated to prophesy interpretation from ex-Jehovah's Witnesses that don't agree with the interpretation of the Watchtower http://new-jw.org/prophesies/
"There is a fine line between interpreting prophesy and imposing this interpretation upon others as a doctrine. A true Christian who is faithful and discreet should never attempt to cross this line .The word of God provides with guidelines on how to treat prophesy .Paul in 1 Thessalonians 5:20 warns us "Do not treat prophesyings with contempt."
Instead we should look at the prophetic Word as a "lamp shining in a dark place" as (2 Peter 1:19-21) reads : "Consequently we have the prophetic word [made] more sure; and YOU are doing well in paying attention to it as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until day dawns and a daystar rises, in YOUR hearts. 20 For YOU know this first, that no prophecy of Scripture springs from any private interpretation. 21 For prophecy was at no time brought by man's will, but men spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit."
The way the leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses has always tried to interpret prophesy and then tried to impose this interpretation to it's members is truly remarkable and shows lack of discretion and haughtiness that has always displayed .On the other hand ,faithful men of the Bible treated prophesy as an opportunity to seek Jehovah's direction and no matter their interpretation never imposed it upon their brothers .Remember Daniel's example when he finally understood the prophesy of the "70 weeks" .In Daniel 9:2 we read that Daniel discerned the true meaning of Jeremiah's prophesy of the 70 weeks:" in the first year of his reigning I myself, Daniel, discerned by the books the number of the years concerning which the word of Jehovah had occurred to Jeremiah the prophet, for fulfilling the devastations of Jerusalem, [namely,] seventy years." So he proceeded to pray and entreat Jehovah and pray on the behalf of his brothers :" And I proceeded to set my face to Jehovah the [true] God, in order to seek [him] with prayer and with entreaties, with fasting and sackcloth and ashes."(Daniel 9:4)
Please treat the interpretation of the prophesies below in the same manner ..."